Erik Ellefsen is an American educator with an interest in educational leadership. In this podcast he talks to Australian national educational leader Daniel Pampuch. Daniel is CEO of Christian Schools Australia where he oversees 140 schools and provides advocacy for another 40 – representing 60,000 students. He completed his Ph.D. dissertation on “Next Generation Leadership”, and this blog is what led to this podcast conversation.

Millennials have been much maligned and parodied for a perceived lack of work ethic and ambition for leadership, but what Daniel has found in his research on the generations and work with younger leaders is hopefully a renewed interest in thinking differently about schools, the profession, and leadership.